After further research, some doubt has now been cast on the identification of EXPRES I with OGLIASTRA. Miramar says that HEERENVEEN only became EXPRES I in 1919, while the Bureau Veritas 1916-17 release has it already with the new name; the Dimitris Galon database which you attach mentions an EXPRES II, not I... confusion prevails.Des photos en plus ou en meilleur resolution:
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Ten French chalutiers for the Regia Marina in 1915
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Re: Ten French chalutiers for the Regia Marina in 1915
Re: Ten French chalutiers for the Regia Marina in 1915
Bonjour,
Express, ferry construit en 1886 par Curet à La Seyne,
69 tjb, 35 tjn, 24,00 x 5,54 x 1,94 m, une machine compound de Mouraille & Cie, Toulon, 1886, 85 cv, 10 noeuds, une chaudière Mouraille & Cie, Toulon, 1886, 6 kg.
En 1912, immatriculé à La Seyne, armateur Hoirs Michel Pacha, possède également : Bosphore, 92 tjb, Le Manteau, 87 tjb, Les Sablettes, 79 tjb, Stamboul, 92 tjb, Tamaris 73 tjb.
En 1930, il est classé dans les navires à moteur, ayant été équipé d'un moteur 2 temps semi-diesel Grei en 1926 du constructeur A. Gulowsen, Oslo, 1925, 80 cv, 6 noeuds.
Express-I, ex Heerenveen, construit en 1901 par J. & K. Smith à Krimpen a/d Lek,
344 tjb, 213 tjn, 53,90 x 7,00 x 3,70 m, une machine à triple expansion Löhnis & Co, Rotterdam, 1901, 350 cv, 11, 75 noeuds, deux chaudières Löhnis, Rotterdam 1901, 11 kg
En 1912, immatriculé à Constantinople, armateur P. de Vauréal & F. de Chevigné, Marmara.
Source : Registre n° 84, Bureau Veritas 1912.
Cordialement.
Express, ferry construit en 1886 par Curet à La Seyne,
69 tjb, 35 tjn, 24,00 x 5,54 x 1,94 m, une machine compound de Mouraille & Cie, Toulon, 1886, 85 cv, 10 noeuds, une chaudière Mouraille & Cie, Toulon, 1886, 6 kg.
En 1912, immatriculé à La Seyne, armateur Hoirs Michel Pacha, possède également : Bosphore, 92 tjb, Le Manteau, 87 tjb, Les Sablettes, 79 tjb, Stamboul, 92 tjb, Tamaris 73 tjb.
En 1930, il est classé dans les navires à moteur, ayant été équipé d'un moteur 2 temps semi-diesel Grei en 1926 du constructeur A. Gulowsen, Oslo, 1925, 80 cv, 6 noeuds.
Express-I, ex Heerenveen, construit en 1901 par J. & K. Smith à Krimpen a/d Lek,
344 tjb, 213 tjn, 53,90 x 7,00 x 3,70 m, une machine à triple expansion Löhnis & Co, Rotterdam, 1901, 350 cv, 11, 75 noeuds, deux chaudières Löhnis, Rotterdam 1901, 11 kg
En 1912, immatriculé à Constantinople, armateur P. de Vauréal & F. de Chevigné, Marmara.
Source : Registre n° 84, Bureau Veritas 1912.
Cordialement.
Memgam
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Re: Ten French chalutiers for the Regia Marina in 1915
Thank you, Memgam.
Re: Ten French chalutiers for the Regia Marina in 1915
Bonjour,Thank you, Memgam.
I checked my files of non-commissioned Allied merchant ships which were seized by the Ottoman Government after the outbreak of the war. Here are the histories of EXPRESS I and EXPRESS II:
EXPRESS I
Passengerferry/Steel/Screwsteamer
Bld.: J. & K. Smit` s Scheepswerven, Krimpen a.d. Lek -520-
L: .09.1900 T: 10.08.1901 Eng.: VTE3cyl 325ihp Löhnis & Co., Rotterdam
344gt 43nt 90tdw L=53,9m B=7,0m D=3,7m
10.08.1901: HEERENVEEN N.V. Stoomvaart Mij. Amsterdam-Lemmer, Amsterdam /Ne .06.1902: HEERENVEEN N.V. Verschure & Co.`s Allgemeene Binnenlandsche Stoomvaart Mij., Amsterdam /Ne 23.06.1911: reported at Ijmuiden ready for delivery voyage to İstanbul for steamship line İstanbul-Bandırma-Tekirdağ (“Marmara Express Line“) 1911: EXPRESS I P. de Vauréal & F. de Chevigné, Paris, p.o.r. İstanbul (m) A. Theodoridi & Co., Braila /Fr 30.11.1914: seized by Osmanlı Government at İstanbul in poor condition and allocated to Osmanlı Seyr-i Sefain İdaresi, İstanbul, but not commissioned and laid up at İstanbul-İstinye yard for repairs 1919: seized by Marine Nationale at İstanbul in poor condition, later chartered from French owners 13.08.1920: CLEO H.O. Paterson, İzmir, p.o.r. İstanbul /Br 17.08.1920: left İstanbul for İzmir 15.11.1922: left İstanbul for Mitylini 22.11.1922: arrived at Mitylini .11.1922: CLEO H.O. Paterson, London (m) S. Victoros, Mytilini /Br 1931: CLEO V. S. Victoros, Mytilini /Gr 1937: MOSCANTHI Togias S.S. Co. (m) A.K. Togias, Piraeus /Gr 13.10.1940: requisionated by Greek Government as hospitalship 24.04.1941: 10.30h attacked by 9 German JU-87 aircrafts (Luftflotte 4) at Seliniatika / Bay of Patras o/V: Loutraki-Patras, caught fire and grounded, no lives lost 25.04.1941: 17.45h bombed and completely destroyed by German JU-87 aircrafts, wreck was scrapped after 1945
EXPRESS II
Passengerferry/Steel/Screwsteamer
Bld.: J. & K. Smit`s Scheepswerven, Krimpen a.d. Lek -519-
L: 1900 T: 1901 Eng.: VTE3cyl 325ihp Löhnis & Co., Rotterdam
346gt 43nt 90tdw L=53,9m B=7,0m D=3,7m
10.08.1901: BOLSWARD N.V. Stoomvaart Mij. Amsterdam-Lemmer, Amsterdam /Ne .06.1902: BOLSWARD N.V. Verschure & Co.`s Allgemeene Binnenlandsche Stoomvaart Mij., Amsterdam /Ne 1911: sold to French owners for steamship line İstanbul-Bandırma-Tekirdağ (“Marmara Express Line“) 1911: EXPRESS II P. de Vauréal & F. de Chevigné, Paris, p.o.r. İstanbul (m) A. Theodoridi & Co., Braila /Fr 30.11.1914: seized by Osmanlı Government at İstanbul in poor condition and allocated to Osmanlı Seyr-i Sefain İdaresi, İstanbul, but not commissioned and laid up 1919: seized by Marine Nationale at İstanbul in very poor condition, later chartered from French owners 13.08.1920: EUTERPE H.O. Paterson, İzmir, p.o.r. İstanbul /Br 17.08.1920: left İstanbul for İzmir 15.11.1922: left İstanbul for Mitylini 22.11.1922: arrived at Mitylini 1922: SAKARIA Smyrna International Ferry Service Ltd., London (m) T. Bowen Rees, D. Forbes & C. Whittal, İzmir /Br 1931: deleted from LR
So the only problem is: What happened to SAKARIA?
Best regards,
Jochen